The Future Mark Zuckerberg Is Trying To Build

Fri, 23 Jan 2026 16:37:07 +0000

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The Huge Conversation with Mark Zuckerberg...

I interviewed Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg before Connect. There are not many people with more power over our future. Right now, Mark Zuckerberg and his team are imagining the future billions of people might live in, soon, and building towards it. So, in this conversation, my goal is to figure out what that future looks like. To paint a picture of the future Mark Zuckerberg is trying to build, so that you can decide for yourself what you think of it.

We talked about the Meta's new Orion prototype AR glasses, creating holograms and the Star Trek universal translator, generative AI changing social media, big trends in human connection, open sourced AI, Ray Ban Meta glasses and Quest 3S, the biggest genuine question on his mind right now, and more...

Welcome to the first episode of our new series, Huge Conversations…

Special thanks to Derek Thompson, for his generous guidance on my first long-form interview!

Chapters:
0:00 What is Mark Zuckerberg trying to build?
2:08 Meta's new Orion prototype AR glasses
4:42 How do Meta's Orion glasses work?
6:55 What's the future of AR?
9:50 What's the future of VR?
11:36 What is Meta trying to build?
13:18 Haptics is hard
17:18 Why does VR feel real?
20:16 Why are we having trouble connecting?
24:27 What should we use AI for?
28:17 What wouldn't he want his kids using AI for?
31:47 How will generative AI change social media?
35:43 What concerns does he see as most legitimate?
39:26 Why care about open source?
43:38 What is his biggest genuine question?

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Bio:
Cleo Abram is a video journalist who produces Huge If True, an optimistic show about science and technology. Huge If True is an antidote to the doom and gloom, helping a wide audience see better futures they can help build. In each episode, Cleo dives deep into one innovation that could shape the future. She has explored humanoid robots at Boston Dynamics, supersonic planes at NASA, quantum computers at IBM, the Large Hadron Collider at CERN, and more. Every episode mixes high quality animations and detailed scripts with relatable vlog-style journeys, taking the audience along for an adventure to answer the question: If this works, what could go right? Previously, Cleo was a video producer at Vox and directed for Explained on Netflix. She was the host of Vox’s first ever daily show, Answered, as well as co-host of Vox’s YouTube Originals show, Glad You Asked.

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Gear I use:
Camera: Sony A7SIII
Lens: Sony 16–35 mm F2.8 GM
Audio: Sennheiser SK AVX and Zoom H4N Pro

Music: Musicbed, Tom Fox

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